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Social anxiety disorder was one of the good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 2, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
March 20, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
May 10, 2007	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Many inaccuracies/mis-characterisations

The paragraph headed 'Social aspects' is problematic, especially vis-a-vis Social Anxiety Disorder; '... due to the irrational fear of these situations.'

No, the fear - of embarrassment - is not irrational; it is perfectly rational and well-founded based as it is on prior experience. SAD is at once a result of a lack of socialisation, and leads to a further lack of socialisation, and consequent inexperience of social graces, pre-disposing the sufferer to gauche conduct, and embarrassment. Nothing 'irrational' whatsoever, when your experience of socialising has been typified by embarrassment.

'... sensitivity to criticism ...'

No, sufferers are not unduly sensitive; they have merely been subjected to far more criticism than non-sufferers (see above) and are weary of criticism, not unduly sensitive. Mistaking weariness for excessive sensitivity is just dismal. What could more clearly evidence the abject lack of empathy the so-called 'caring' professions have?

'These people may feel more nervous in job interviews, dates, interactions with authority, or at work.'

Totally tautological and superfluous. Of course they're nervous; they're anxious, aren't they?

But three of very many examples in this article of how utterly clue-less the psychiatric/psychological professions actually are. We are not created equal. It is inarguable the less physically attractive are treated and judged far less favourably in social situations. Society is chronically prejudiced; a very ugly thing. It is not arguable. As a consequence, many people lead socially disadvantaged lives from birth. An objective reality the psych professions are incapable of accepting.

No-one is capable of truly understanding what they have not themselves experienced. That's the nub of the problem with psychiatry/psychology; non-sufferers prognosticating upon what they have not themselves experienced, absent any insight from having experienced a condition. Could this be why the psych professions have made such pathetically little progress over the years toward achieving a greater understanding? Their inability to acknowledge or respect the insights enunciated from the patients' perspective? 122.151.210.84 (talk) 09:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spectrum?

can we mention that SAD is a spectrum and that people do not feel the syntoms with the same intensity? I am a bit busy now and away from my computer. I am typing on the mobile version. But as soon as I get back I'll try to find reliable sources to this —Nanami73 ^talk 17:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support this, for the reason that from a certain view, all mental illnesses exist on a spectrum. People feel MDD symptoms at varying intensities, schizophrenia symptoms at varying intensities, ADHD symptoms at varying intensities, and so on. I do not see SAD as standing out among these as being one that should be called a spectrum disorder. Kimen8 (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see, well, I got your point. It's not something that makes it stand out for sure. Thanks for elucidating me. —Nanami73 ^talk 18:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA24 - Sect 200 - Thu

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 September 2024 and 13 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Qiuyi Y (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Qiuyi Yang (talk) 00:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mechanisms section: conjecture from outdated primary sources

Summarizing from previous edit summaries, this revert was justified by these reasons:

1. the section is verbose speculation based on early-stage lab studies. It reads like research background for a student term paper. No reputable MEDRS-quality review conclusively specifies the mechanisms.

2. nearly all the sources are in the date range of 1980s to 2010s, i.e., outside of WP:MEDDATE or 5 years. The topic is actively researched (hundreds of publications), including advanced imaging methods, but there are no certain conclusions on mechanisms - see these search terms on PubMed.

Per WP:MEDASSESS, there are no clinical guidelines for mechanism-specific therapy and no good systematic reviews discussing what mechanisms might apply.

3. the section is written like a cherry-picked history of research steps from the lab, synthesizing unconfirmed concepts. It is a conspicuous example of WP:SYNTH.

4. 'mechanisms' of social anxiety disorder are not defined to date clinically, as indicated by the range and low efficacy of drugs prescribed in attempts to manage SAD.

5. the section is 'Research' at best, should be extensively trimmed, and supported by more general clinical summaries. Mechanisms of SAD are not mentioned in the NIMH summary or StatPearls review. Zefr (talk) 16:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]